Posted by
TwO PoUnD RaDiO on Friday, September 26, 2008 12:00:00 AM
McCain vs. Obama Debate (1)
Friday, September 26, 2008
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Question:
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McCain Response:
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Obama Response:
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1. Ike: "Security and solvency" Where do you stand on financial recovery plan.
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McCain opened saying the Kennedy was in the hospital. In fact he is at home. McCain called for an economic plan with transparency, oversight and possibly loans rather than a bailout so to speak. McCain also mentioned Responsibility and Accountability.
TIE
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Obama called for oversight, mentioned capital gains tax. No parachute payout for CEO's and a package for homeowners. Focussed on Accountability before disaster.
TIE
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2. Fundamental differences?
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McCain joked about the moderator thinking he couldn't hear Obama. McCain attacked Obama's excess spending. Approximately 1 million per day while in the Senate. McCain does not want to increase taxes on companies. McCain wins the spending debate hands down.
STRONG McCAIN WIN
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Obama says he suspended earmarks. This was just to little too late. Obama tries to shift the debate to taxes and completely fails. McCain is promoting a $5,000.00 tax credit for families with children which Obama did not have a good response stating we needed to tax people who give us all jobs even more due to loop holes.
OBAMA LOSS
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3. Back to economy: "What would you give up?" to pay for fiscal crisis bill.
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Regarding Obama "It is hard to reach across the aisle from that far to the left."
One for the ages!!
"I'd eliminate ethanol subsidies." Cost-plus contracts. Specifics. Argument --strong-- from experience.
"A spending freeze on everything except defense, veterans, entitlements."
McCain brings up energy transfer and demands offshore drilling and nuclear power. 700,000 jobs in 45 nuclear power Obama fails to offer a solid response stating that he wants safe nuclear energy. He must be completely unaware of Frances safe use of nuclear power.
"I want to make sure we are not handing our health care system over to the federal government."
It is well known....I have opposed the president on spending, climate change, torture, Gitmo, conduct of Iraq War. The American people know me very well". Nice word for Palin.
STRONG McCAIN WIN
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Obama says basically nothing even after Lehrer brings it up again. Obama doesn't seem to want a freeze of anything. He did get in a good jab at Bush but Bush isn't running so the tactic I think is kind of lost.
He does say that many of the things he would like to do as president he won't be able to do.
OBAMA DODGING THE QUESTION.
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4. Lessons of Iraq?
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You cannot have a failed strategy that will then cause you to very nearly lose a conflict. You mean like Obama's who would have had us pull out of Iraq last May?
War was very badly mishandled. In 2003 called for a new strategy. I fought for it. Finally we came up with a great general and the strtaegy has succeeded. We will come home wiht victory and honor. Now that we will succeed, we will have a stable ally and a fledging democracy..
STRONG McCAIN WIN
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Six years ago I opposed this war...hadn't finished the job. He says al Qaeda is stronger than ever, sights Afghanistan specifically.
We've spent over 600 billion, lost 4,000 lives, 30,000 wounded, and al Qaeda is resurgent. We took our eye off the ball.
Salutes troops and Petraeus. That was a tactic designed to contain the damage. "You like to pretend the war started in 2007. You said it was going to be quick and easy..."
Mis-represents his own time table. He obviously doesn't understand that losing in Iraq isn't going to help us win in Afganistan.
OBAMA LOSS.
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5. Troops. How many and when?
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I won't repeat the mistake that I regret enormously that led to Taliban. We can't ignore those lessons of history.
If you are going to aim a gun at somebody, you'd better be prepared to pull the trigger. I am not prepared to threaten Pakistan. We need the support of the people of Pakistan. "You don't do that. You don't say that out loud. You work with the Pakistani governemnt." Another sound bite moment. Watch out for that left hook Obama you are getting jacked up.
OVERWHELMING McCAIN WIN
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Obama seems lost on the situation in Pakistan. Then like a little kid brings up the fact that he has "a bracelet too" after McCain mentions a story about his bracelet and not letting our troops down.
Obama starts to backtrack, looks mad and frustrated at this point. Obama denies having threatened Pakistan. What?
Brings up "songs about bombing Iran," apparently the candidates can not joke unless Obama approves it first.
I did like Obama's analogy of using a "scalpal instead of a hatchet" but then he immediately gave an example where he would use a hatchet?
OBAMA LOSS
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6. Iran threat.
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Brings up Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Korea. Now in NY talking about wiping Israel off the map, and we are going to sit down with a person without precondition espousing the destruction of state of Israel?
Reagan wouldn't sit down with Brez, Chern, Andropov..got to be preconditions. Senator Obama said "without preconditions"
McCain unleashes another headline on Obama saying - "So let me get this straight, Iran says they are going to blow Israel off the face of the earth. And your response is, Oh, not your not"
"Oh please"!
If this were a boxing match they would have called the fight.
STRONG McCAIN WIN
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Obama claims that McCain's own supporters say that Presidents should sit down without pre-conditions. Then states he meant that he would have "a plan". In a YouTube debate earlier this year Obama never mentions bringing "a plan".
Henry Kissinger later e-mailed CNN of all places saying he never said that a President should meet a rouge dictator without pre-conditions. FOX NEWS even went as far as to say that Kissinger was "mad" about the comment.
Obama seemed very embarrassingly off on his fact the entire night. Obama at this point almost looks as if he wants to leave the room.
OBAMA BADLY OUT-MATCHED
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7. Russia
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We need to bolster our firends and allies. Russia's entering Georgia has everything to do with energy. McCain has actually been to Georgia. "I think the Russians ought to understand..."
Watch Ukraine, the base of the Russian fleet, names the key leaders.
We know if we drill offshore it wil help and it wil have an important effect on prices. McCain echos Palins statements last week that we do not need another Cold War.
STRONG McCAIN WIN
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Obama says Russia's actions in Georgia were unwarranted and unacceptable. They must leave.
An area I have led on in the Senate....
"I disagree with this notion that "we" did not object forcefully to invasion of Georgia". What? Is he really paying attention a all?
OBAMA LOSS
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8. 9./11 risks.
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Much less than it was on 9/12. I have worked across the aisle, after 9/11 Joe Lieberman and I decided we needed a Commission, and we were opposed by Administration and we got that legislation passed. We have got written into law most of those reforms. Bipartisan.
McCain has a good close citing his superior experience. This is a card McCain played that it looked like Obama was shocked by.
MCCAIN WIN.
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Obama says blah, blah, blah. No major differences only Obama is just looking stunned and defeated at this point. He walks around the stage with his head tilted down a bit.
His last statement is sort of a shot at America.
OBAMA DID OKAY I GUESS.
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OVERALL THIS WAS A HUGE VICTORY FOR McCAIN - CONSERVATIVES AND MANY INDEPENDANTS VERY IMPRESSED. Of course the Obama camps and some more liberal sites have Obama winning but they are not being intellectually honest.
My notes have McCain up 11 to 2 as far as the point by point goes. Question by question 7 to 0 with one tie. The American public may like Obama's comments on the economy better now but the reality is that they won't later.